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fairyruneI'm sure you've all heard about Nadya Suleman, the woman in Californa who recently gave birth to octuplets.
She already had six children, and no job. Her mother told her that once she comes home from the hospital, Grandma won't be around to help any more.
Now, she's set up a website so people can send her donations.
That's right folks. She had six kids she couldn't afford to feed already when she made the decision to go to a fertility clinic and have a few more. Now, she wants the rest of us to foot the bill.
Sounds to me like this woman is running a scam, and she's using her children to do it. To me, that is absolutely despicable.
Granted, she may need mental help. There have been reports of her being obsessed with Angelina Jolie to the point where she had plastic surgery to make herself look like the actress. She claims that all she ever wanted was lots of children, and she certainly has them now.
Personally, I think those kids should be put up for adoption. It's irresponsible to intentionally have that many children when you know you can't afford the ones you already have. There are plenty of people who are completely unable to have children of their own who would love to care for those babies.
This is an extreme case, of course. I'm not saying that poor people shouldn't be allowed to have kids, but when you already have several children, no job, and very little support, I really don't think you should be allowed to intentionally force yourself to have more.
Nadya Suleman should be made to take responsibility for her actions. She didn't get pregnant by accident for ANY of her fourteen children. They were all a choice she made, and now she needs to figure out how to deal with it. No one else was involved in that decision, and therefore should not be asked to pay for it.
She already had six children, and no job. Her mother told her that once she comes home from the hospital, Grandma won't be around to help any more.
Now, she's set up a website so people can send her donations.
That's right folks. She had six kids she couldn't afford to feed already when she made the decision to go to a fertility clinic and have a few more. Now, she wants the rest of us to foot the bill.
Sounds to me like this woman is running a scam, and she's using her children to do it. To me, that is absolutely despicable.
Granted, she may need mental help. There have been reports of her being obsessed with Angelina Jolie to the point where she had plastic surgery to make herself look like the actress. She claims that all she ever wanted was lots of children, and she certainly has them now.
Personally, I think those kids should be put up for adoption. It's irresponsible to intentionally have that many children when you know you can't afford the ones you already have. There are plenty of people who are completely unable to have children of their own who would love to care for those babies.
This is an extreme case, of course. I'm not saying that poor people shouldn't be allowed to have kids, but when you already have several children, no job, and very little support, I really don't think you should be allowed to intentionally force yourself to have more.
Nadya Suleman should be made to take responsibility for her actions. She didn't get pregnant by accident for ANY of her fourteen children. They were all a choice she made, and now she needs to figure out how to deal with it. No one else was involved in that decision, and therefore should not be asked to pay for it.
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-13 04:39 pm (UTC)I'm sure that many of the people who are helped by social services programs do *need* help, but there are also plenty who just don't want to take responsibility for their own lives and take care of themselves.
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Date: 2009-02-13 05:37 pm (UTC)In this case, I completely agree with Leslie. We absolutely must have social service programs to help those who legitimately need it. But this is not one of those cases. This woman is a living in her own little world, and probably doesn't even understand why she shouldn't expect people to give her money. She should be probably be declared Non Compus Mentus and have ALL of her children removed.
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Date: 2009-02-13 05:45 pm (UTC)Hello! You need to have money to feed your children! You need to have a job to have money! Maybe you shouldn't have a bunch more kids if you can't feed the ones you have.
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Date: 2009-02-13 08:19 pm (UTC)I personally always hated people who came in with their welfare benefits cards and asked if they could use that as ID to get a cell phone...
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Date: 2009-02-13 08:22 pm (UTC)Are you serious? ::braintwitch::
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Date: 2009-02-13 04:56 pm (UTC)I just feel horrible for those poor kids. They don't stand a chance, with a mother like that.
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Date: 2009-02-13 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-13 05:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-02-13 05:17 pm (UTC)The thought of trying to read the stimulous bill scares the CRAP out of me. I'ma try to find a good summary.
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Date: 2009-02-13 06:05 pm (UTC)This isn't a stimulus bill. It's $789 billion worth of crap.
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Date: 2009-02-13 06:09 pm (UTC)Of course, part of me is thinking, "You know, they can just leave the housing market in the shitter for a little while. That'll give us some time to get ourselves to the point where we can buy a house." That's just me, though. ;)
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Date: 2009-02-13 05:45 pm (UTC)That household is as unstable as any drug addicts. They should yoink them.
And whatever happened to the hypocratic oath? This counts as doing harm. The babies are patients too. What kind of asshold agrees to use fertility treatments on a woman with six children? There aren't enough people struggling to have one?
J.
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Date: 2009-02-13 05:48 pm (UTC)You are completely right. I honestly do not believe that any of those children are safe, especially with the death threats their mother has been receiving.
I believe the doctor is under review. He may have his license revoked, but that is going to take time.
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Date: 2009-02-13 06:39 pm (UTC)I'd normally correct with "It's Hippocratic Oath, silly!" -- but in this case, the typo seems oddly appropriate. :)
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Date: 2009-02-13 08:18 pm (UTC)The doctor who gave her the fertility treatment should be seriously questioned.
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Date: 2009-02-13 08:20 pm (UTC)Oh, he is. Apparently he used an experimental method that hasn't gotten FDA approval on her or something. I'm not really up on IVF jargon, so I'm not really sure of the details, but the CA medical board is investigating.